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Sportsmans Paradise => Powersports and Bed Toys => Topic started by: Taurus on October 24, 2011, 04:05:21 am
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After the dodge got stuck in a little bit of snow last winter,
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I decided that a nice light weight snow wheeling truck would be a good investment. Been putting a lot of work to get ready for this winter and have loosely documented it.
1990 toyota extended cab pickup is the platform I started with
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not much to look at, but its a solid frame, trans, and motor.
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A wee bit of damage on the passenger side
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Some damage on the bed corner too
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Step 1:
That IFS has got to go
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it took some of the motor mount with it
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Step 2:
SAS spring mounts replace the IFS garbage
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Step 3:
Rear spring mounts move forward 5 inches
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Step 4:
1984 toyota front axle slides in with allpro 4" springs
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yep, its got a high pinion diff with 4.88 gears and an ARB locker installed
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Step 5:
Front end buttoned up with chromoly hub gears, 30 spline longfield axles and bilstein shocks
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Step 6:
rear gets the same treatment with 4.88 gears and an ARB locker
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Step 7:
Body damage gets repaired
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Bed gets Bobbed 9" and Herculined in white
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The cab gets the same Herculiner treatment
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Step 8:
Locker switches get wired in
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Middle location will be used for the air compressor
Step 9:
Some new bumpers go on
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Next on the list is to convert the AC to an air compressor, get some drive lines fabbed, fill the bumper with a winch, and roll some 37" Iroks under it. :punk: :43:
Bring it on Winter. :gunsmilie:
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Don't think that will sink like the C :up: Hopefully it will be a good happy trail rig for you for playing this year :)
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nice looking rig, been building a fiberglass cj5 myself, wish I made progress like you have.
Might change that spring shackle config, looks like a weak link.
Never run any of the Super Swamper brand tires let me know how you like em for that kind of wheeelin
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:2cool: Bad-ass little project! I had an '85 years ago. It was a fun little truck.
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Cool project. It will be fun to see what you can get into with that.
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Cool wheeling rig.. been thinking about doing something similar myself
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You left out the part about swapping in a small 4 cylinder diesel engine.... ;D
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nice looking rig, been building a fiberglass cj5 myself, wish I made progress like you have.
Might change that spring shackle config, looks like a weak link.
Never run any of the Super Swamper brand tires let me know how you like em for that kind of wheeelin
Shackle angle should improve after 2-3 runs. The springs havent seen a single flexing yet. From what I've seen, Iroks are the only tire to run in the snow. Everyone Iknow recommends them.
You left out the part about swapping in a small 4 cylinder diesel engine.... ;D
It might get a small ford diesel in the future, but a chevy 4.3 swaps in pretty easily.
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VW makes a bunch of small diesel to choose from too. Just sayin ;D
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Cummins B 3.9L same as 5.9 just minus 2 cylinders.
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Cool project, looks fun as hell :punk: As for the Irok's, years ago I had a '84 CJ-7 with 36" Super Swampers (this was back when they only made one style tire). Excellent tire, absolutely sucked in the heavy snow and ice. The main problem was the jeep was so light, it would ride up on top of the snow, then when it broke thru it was high centered with the wheels dangling in the breeze. :banging: Used the winch A LOT. :lol: I think the tires would have worked better if they weren't so wide. Tall and skinny for the snow is the way to go.
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I should have been taking pictures of you guys working on getting the tire off the other week LOL.
Not gunna lie- I give you and Jake mad props for working on this thing lately. It's been friggin cold and miserable and in that garage! ;)
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I should have been taking pictures of you guys working on getting the tire off the other week LOL.
Not gunna lie- I give you and Jake mad props for working on this thing lately. It's been friggin cold and miserable and in that garage! ;)
Welcome to western washington. You have 10 more months of this weather.
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I should have been taking pictures of you guys working on getting the tire off the other week LOL.
Not gunna lie- I give you and Jake mad props for working on this thing lately. It's been friggin cold and miserable and in that garage! ;)
Welcome to western washington. You have 10 more months of this weather.
Exactly!
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No a bad choice
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I should have been taking pictures of you guys working on getting the tire off the other week LOL.
Not gunna lie- I give you and Jake mad props for working on this thing lately. It's been friggin cold and miserable and in that garage! ;)
Welcome to western washington. You have 10 more months of this weather.
:taz: :90: :banging: :suicide:
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I should have been taking pictures of you guys working on getting the tire off the other week LOL.
Not gunna lie- I give you and Jake mad props for working on this thing lately. It's been friggin cold and miserable and in that garage! ;)
Welcome to western washington. You have 10 more months of this weather.
I swear I just heard that... AND- It is apparently also going to be dark, cold, and rainy. Such a happy sounding place. Good thing I have a closet full of down jackets, vests, and boots!
So- hurry up and get this truck done so we can play in the snow! The MINI isn't going to get us very far...
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...... As for the Irok's, years ago I had a '84 CJ-7 with 36" Super Swampers (this was back when they only made one style tire). Excellent tire, absolutely sucked in the heavy snow and ice.....
After thinking about it, I stand corrected. It wasn't the Swampers I had problems with, but Mickey Thompson Baja Belted at 33"x12.5"x15". Excellent trail tire, loose dirt/sand, good pavement wear, moderate in the mud. Really sucked on ice and snow. The Swampers (called TSL radial now I think), sized 36"x12.5"x15" were excellent off-road tires, excellent in the mud, not bad on the street. I got rid of the Jeep before I had a chance to run these in the snow. Man I miss my heep... :pout:
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The new shoes arrived today
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Tomorrow we'll find out if it clears the garage door withthese high heels
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not much goin to be stoppin ya now... nice tire choice
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not much goin to be stoppin ya now... nice tire choice
Cant wait to see how it does in the snow.
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I think I'll be ordering fender flares in the near future
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you put the tires on in the garage... have you checked to see if you can get out yet?
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Sweet lookin rig you've built yourself, I'm lookin to do some more work to my jeep. After Friday I'm ordering a new lift for it. Also keepin my options open for finding a new motor for it. The old 258 is all worn out in it.
...... As for the Irok's, years ago I had a '84 CJ-7 with 36" Super Swampers (this was back when they only made one style tire). Excellent tire, absolutely sucked in the heavy snow and ice.....
After thinking about it, I stand corrected. It wasn't the Swampers I had problems with, but Mickey Thompson Baja Belted at 33"x12.5"x15". Excellent trail tire, loose dirt/sand, good pavement wear, moderate in the mud. Really sucked on ice and snow. The Swampers (called TSL radial now I think), sized 36"x12.5"x15" were excellent off-road tires, excellent in the mud, not bad on the street. I got rid of the Jeep before I had a chance to run these in the snow. Man I miss my heep... :pout:
Not to go off topic here, but earlier this year you suggested that it was the rear axle shafts spinning out in the hubs that caused my 81 CJ-8 to stop going, well just wanted to say that last weekend my brother and I finally finished up the new axles and brakes on the rear, and now it's back on the road drivin around. Thanks for the heads up on that.
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niiice, id drive that
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you put the tires on in the garage... have you checked to see if you can get out yet?
I was measuring drivelines and forgot to check. It looks like it clears, but with only about an inch to spare. Should be plenty of room if i drop the tires to 10psi.
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niiice, id drive that
There's no plans to install a step ladder :43:
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Why not beadlocks?
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Some day it may get beadlocks but when they're 4x the cost of black steelies, I couldn't justify them atm.
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im not that damn short lol
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It looks AWESOME!! Can't wait til you can hit the snow with it! I might take shot gun with you ;)
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It looks AWESOME!! Can't wait til you can hit the snow with it! I might take shot gun with you ;)
Currently there's no radio or CB installed, so you'd have no way to tune me out. The only escape will be bailing out of a moving vehicle.
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It looks AWESOME!! Can't wait til you can hit the snow with it! I might take shot gun with you ;)
Currently there's no radio or CB installed, so you'd have no way to tune me out. The only escape will be bailing out of a moving vehicle.
You don't talk, so what's to tune out? Besides- the Jeep didn't have a working radio for a long time...
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Not to go off topic here, but earlier this year you suggested that it was the rear axle shafts spinning out in the hubs that caused my 81 CJ-8 to stop going, well just wanted to say that last weekend my brother and I finally finished up the new axles and brakes on the rear, and now it's back on the road drivin around. Thanks for the heads up on that.
Cool! that is a very common problem with the AMC corporate axle. As for the motor, the 258 is a nice stump pulling inline 6 for a CJ, maybe rebuild it with a little more spunk to it. Clifford Performance used to be thee place for performance Jeep go fast parts. :up:
Another option would be a small block chevy transplant. Easy to do, you can get complete install kits with mounts, adapters, etc. to make it virtually a bolt in job. I had a 327 chevy in my '84 CJ and it was the perfect motor. Stock rebuild, worked very well, with highway mileage in the 20's. :punk:
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I'm contemplating finding a 4.0 from a 91-95 jeep. A pretty common thing is to take the crank from the 4.2 and put it in the 4.0 to make a 4.5 stroker or bore it .060 to make what's called the "torque monster" 4.7 stroker.
Or, put the 4.0 head and top end onto the lower end of the 4.2 which is a complete bolt on procedure, giving you a 10:1 compression ratio. And basically it becomes a fuel injected 4.2.
My uncle has a late 70's cj5 I believe with a 327, and that's a mean little motor in it. There's plenty of options out there, I just need to choose one and go with it. And find myself a new frame being that the jeep has at least 6 cracked spots that have been welded already but continue to break.
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Fender flares arrived last night
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A couple of boxes should be arriving from the dog house this week to fill in between them lights :punk:
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The flares look awesome!
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Nice addition from the Doghouse, thanks Rich :up:
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That is one nice rig you are building up there Taurus, good job! I can't wait to see pictures of this in action.
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SWEET!!!!!!!!!! When is the snow run gonna happen?
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Most of the snow has melted off the past few weeks. Theres pretty much only hard packed ice left, but next weekend it'll drive out of the garage and if everything shows up, it will be streetable. It was tempting to try and take it out today, but I had some work I needed to get done for an early morning meeting. I'm hoping for some fresh snow over christmas break to go on its first run.
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she looks like she'll be unstoppable. can;t wait to see some pics of her out on the go
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and it sees the light of day for the first time in 8 months
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Sheared the passenger hub engagement spring so its currently 3wd :argh:
Got a set of warn hubs on the way to replace them, if thats the only issues, i'll be happy.
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YAY!!! Glad you guys finally got it out of the garage! Looks like you boys had fun tearing up your parents' place. I'll have to test out your passenger seat and make sure it works... ;)
See ya tomorrow!
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damn nice looking rig!
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She come out looking great! That's why you build them, so you can tear 'em up. :43: I had a CJ that spent a little time as a FWD jeep.... :fart:
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She come out looking great! That's why you build them, so you can tear 'em up. :43: I had a CJ that spent a little time as a FWD jeep.... :fart:
Ah yes the old AMC model 20! have done that myself. ;D
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She come out looking great! That's why you build them, so you can tear 'em up. :43: I had a CJ that spent a little time as a FWD jeep.... :fart:
The new hubs came in today. Swap the chromo gears into them and weld on some removable mud flap brackets is my goal. After that it gets trailer hauled to the shop for an alignment and a final nut and bolt check.
Now, if only we could get some fresh snow to test it out. Its been way too warm these past few days, but I'm sure winter will start as soon as I have to leave on business travel :banging:.
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looks awesome man i wish i could finish my jeep and come play. :$:
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Now, if only we could get some fresh snow to test it out. Its been way too warm these past few days, but I'm sure winter will start as soon as I have to leave on business travel :banging:.
Like the 13 inches Snoqualmie got in the last 24 hrs isn't enough :tt2:
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Now, if only we could get some fresh snow to test it out. Its been way too warm these past few days, but I'm sure winter will start as soon as I have to leave on business travel :banging:.
Like the 13 inches Snoqualmie got in the last 24 hrs isn't enough :tt2:
Idk....is 13 inches enough????