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Dodge Trucks => 2nd Gen Rams => Topic started by: Moparpower151 on September 24, 2009, 03:55:36 am
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Hey 2nd Gen Peeps, a buddy of mine just picked up a 2002 CTD 2WD SRW and he is looking for the best chip for fuel mileage. He says he's not really concerned with power too much as he's wanting to keep it as reliable as possible. I've told him to run Amsoil or Royal Purple in the diffs and trans and it should give him a small gain. Should I suggest a air intake or anything else along with whatever tuner you fellas say is best for his needs?
Thanks in advance!
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quad adrenalin witha pulse is about the baddest one out and to be honest i have one right here on the floor at the house left over from the show on saturday !!! the pulse is nice because it saves you the gauge purchase and you can tune the adrenaline to run however you like it !
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I agree with Adam
A cold air intake (Like the AFE) and a 4" turbo back exhaust will open it up, but you won't really see mileage gains from them
Now - when he first installs the Adrenaline, the mileage will go way down (the novelty factor :burn:) but if he tunes for mileage (keeps the box set on 1 or 2) and stays off the skinny pedal, he'll see the best results
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If he want's mileage, he want's a programmer or module that does timing and a little bit of pressure, stay away from the duration.
The Adrenaline, for what he wants, is probably gonna be way to high up on the power / money scale.
For a simple mileage increase and SLIGHT increase in power, something like an Edge Mileage Max or a Quadzilla Max Mileage.
Both are MUCH easier on the wallet and both are geared at what he's looking for.
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Wasn't there a big thread on here talking about what shitty experiences a lot of people have had with Quadzilla products? Why are we recommending them to people?
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The problem is that you're limited in the 24V arena for good products that are mileage oriented, the reason is timing. The VP44's control the timing of the injection pulse (to a point) and they are timed (mechanically) by way of the key in the pump gear. You can only modify the timing so much in VP truck because of the design of the injectors. They require cylinder pressure to open, so adjusting the timing of them is tough. You can program in all the timing you want, but the injector won't open on a VP truck until there is sufficient cylinder pressure.
If the Smarty Jr was available for the VP powered trucks, that would be my first choice, but it's not and an S03 would be more than he needs for what is being talked about. Having the ability to adjust / modify the timing is where you make money in the mileage department. But think about it..... at 1 - 2 MPG increase (max), $649 will take a while to pay off. Same thing with the Adrenaline w/ Pulse. 1 - it's been quirky (to say the least) and, 2 - it's a $700 (w/o Pulse, $900 w/ Pulse) unit that has one setting with Max Mileage tune. That's a lot of coin for "hopeful" mileage increase.
My next choice would be the Edge Mileage Max. It's a timing / pressure module, only adds 35 HP, doesn't "really" need a gauge package to run it, and it's a 10 min install.
After that, I'd say the Quad. It's similar to the Edge, easy install, and almost identical results.
NONE of them, except the Smarty Jr (which isn't available fr this application) are, or have been, without issues. Edge has had problems with boxes overheating, Quad has has problems with harnesses and programming quirks.
In the customer service area, I have to give the nod to Edge. I haven't had an issue with them, so in this case my recommendation is the Edge Mileage Max.
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Before he does anything I'd say upgrade the lift pump and install a fuel pressure gauge at least. If he goes adding fuel through a worn out stock lift pump it isn't going to be good for him. :$:
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Before he does anything I'd say upgrade the lift pump and install a fuel pressure gauge at least. If he goes adding fuel through a worn out stock lift pump it isn't going to be good for him. :$:
+ 1000 !! :up:
That lift pump WILL go !!
Get da FASS !! :up:
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He's looking hard at the Edge Mileage Max and at the Quadzilla Mileage box as well. I will let him know about the lift pump and he's already on the prowl for exhaust and an intake. Thank you guys for all the help, I actually thought the 02 was the 12 valve so it's a good thing I asked. He bought the truck from a widow that lives near him after her husband died. He used to just putt around in it and it still looks brand new.
Thanks again for all the help and I'll pass it on.
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FWIW, I would get a bigger Edge
I understand that he now only wants to get mileage, but IF he wants to go a little faster ( :43: ) he'll have the ability to do so with a larger Edge whereas with the Mileage Max he'll be limited. The larger Edges will also have the Mileage Max settings in them as well.
Just a thought
Seriously though, I'd start with a lift pump. WHEN ( notice I didn't say "if" ) his current one goes, it's gonna take a $1300.00 VP-44 with it. Replacing it NOW with something like a FASS will help prevent that from happening.