12 gauge ammo

[NickBeek]

My boy and I decided to pull out the 12 gauge yesterday and fire a few rounds off. Jerry hadn't ever fired the 12 gauge before. We ran through all my 15 year old bird shot quickly. He went out today and bought another box of 2+3/4" bird shot shells. The brass part of the new shells is considerably shorter than the old ones. In the picture the new is in the foreground and the old is in the background. Is that how the new shells should look or did he get some cheap shells that could be dangerous??




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[NickC]

From what ive always heard, they're a cheaper shell and that they're better used in pumps. Its the semi-autos that are picky and they like the higher brass. That was until i recently just found some stuff online saying thats the way it "used" to be and people never really changed their thinking since the loads have been advanced.

I guess i really dont know why but i have always personally liked a higher brass. I buy the better rounds from Fiocchi... one because they're Italian (everything Italian is better, right? ) and two because they always seem to pack more of a punch and give me better long range results. Theres no scientific research to my theory's, though... 

[Methos]

Unless your gun is finicky about which type it likes to eat it should make no difference between the high/low brass types.  I had a pump gun that absolutely refused to cycle high brass shells.  In my bolt action and break action there is no noticeable difference.

[Methos]

Oh yeah, I forgot one thing....  for having warm enough weather to be out shooting.

[NickBeek]

Thanks guys! Yes Nick everything Italian is better...

I did a little reading after I posted this last night and found that the lower brass has a smaller charge / less velocity. Which is good for us messing around in the back yard. Wouldn't want to kill a neighbors animal or anything. Plus that high brass ammo seemed to kick like hell and bruised me and my boy pretty good where the stock rested on out chests....

The shotgun is a Winchester model 1300 pump. It cycled the high brass just fine. I guess we'll see how it cycles the low brass as soon as the bruises heal up.

Dennis, move south young man! There are computers and networks down here too!


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[Lobster]

Dennis, move south young man! There are computers and networks down here too!


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Yes, but the South doesn't have the weather his lovely Saint would need

[NickBeek]

Dennis, move south young man! There are computers and networks down here too!


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Yes, but the South doesn't have the weather his lovely Saint would need

We have lakes down here too..., that's what they're for, to cool off yer dawg!


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[kenz]

Oh yeah, I forgot one thing....  for having warm enough weather to be out shooting.

X2...     We got lakes to cool off dawgs too, but they're a little hard right now.

Back in the day I think the low brass was used for upland birds, rabbits, and such. Along with trap/clay shooting. I'd definitely use them for messing around being cheaper and such. My Ithaca 37 shoots either or just fine.